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		<title>By: expired domains</title>
		<link>http://www.searchenginepeople.com/blog/good-seo-cannot-compensate-for-faulty-business-models.html#comment-6880</link>
		<dc:creator>expired domains</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A year ago I heard on a seo forum &quot;Some people still think that seo is html and content and everyone knows it&#039;s all about backlinks&quot; I think in a year we could say &quot;some people thinks it&#039;s all aboout backlinks and we know only unique content matter&quot; :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A year ago I heard on a seo forum &#034;Some people still think that seo is html and content and everyone knows it&#039;s all about backlinks&#034; I think in a year we could say &#034;some people thinks it&#039;s all aboout backlinks and we know only unique content matter&#034; <img src='http://www.searchenginepeople.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: busby seo test</title>
		<link>http://www.searchenginepeople.com/blog/good-seo-cannot-compensate-for-faulty-business-models.html#comment-5517</link>
		<dc:creator>busby seo test</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 08:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Links works something like that, but can be manipulated as we’ve seen on a mass scale. Its much much more difficult to manipulate friend recommendations and opinions … just imagine Google incorporating something like Stumbleupon and Delicious, or better yet more advanced social media yet be be deployed.
This is such an important subject, Jeff, and I’m not sure I’ve seen it written about before. I think it can be difficult to make judgments about the effectiveness of someone else’s business plan because, after all, you are an SEO, a designer, a PPC guy or whatever. You’re not in the coin collecting industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Links works something like that, but can be manipulated as we’ve seen on a mass scale. Its much much more difficult to manipulate friend recommendations and opinions … just imagine Google incorporating something like Stumbleupon and Delicious, or better yet more advanced social media yet be be deployed.<br />
This is such an important subject, Jeff, and I’m not sure I’ve seen it written about before. I think it can be difficult to make judgments about the effectiveness of someone else’s business plan because, after all, you are an SEO, a designer, a PPC guy or whatever. You’re not in the coin collecting industry.</p>
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		<title>By: Singapore Internet Marketing</title>
		<link>http://www.searchenginepeople.com/blog/good-seo-cannot-compensate-for-faulty-business-models.html#comment-5511</link>
		<dc:creator>Singapore Internet Marketing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 18:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is just a matter of time before link building loses its stand. Universal search, behaviour-based search and intent-based search are coming into play by the first quarter of 2009 and this will seriously affect many SEO business which do not evolve along with the search engine.
Anna Nguyen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is just a matter of time before link building loses its stand. Universal search, behaviour-based search and intent-based search are coming into play by the first quarter of 2009 and this will seriously affect many SEO business which do not evolve along with the search engine.<br />
Anna Nguyen</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Quipp</title>
		<link>http://www.searchenginepeople.com/blog/good-seo-cannot-compensate-for-faulty-business-models.html#comment-5455</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Quipp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Dudibob - links works something like that, but can be manipulated as we&#039;ve seen on a mass scale. Its much much more difficult to manipulate friend recommendations and opinions ... just imagine Google incorporating something like Stumbleupon and Delicious, or better yet more advanced social media yet be be deployed.

Its not a matter of if ... its a matter of when!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Dudibob &#8211; links works something like that, but can be manipulated as we&#039;ve seen on a mass scale. Its much much more difficult to manipulate friend recommendations and opinions &#8230; just imagine Google incorporating something like Stumbleupon and Delicious, or better yet more advanced social media yet be be deployed.</p>
<p>Its not a matter of if &#8230; its a matter of when!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Quipp</title>
		<link>http://www.searchenginepeople.com/blog/good-seo-cannot-compensate-for-faulty-business-models.html#comment-5454</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Quipp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Carrie Hill - I couldn&#039;t agree more. We (yes we in the search industry) need to develop tools to help us identify where business models and business processes are impediments. I agree completely that research and testing is crucial. Now, you&#039;ve got me thinking!!!! Thanks Carrie!

@ MiriamEllis - agreed Miriam, though what if we could help them identify problems, and that would help. Often clients are not really strong business people ... they&#039;re masters at their craft, but ocassionaly have little business sense. A little insight from a business savy third party can go a long way. We don&#039;t have to understand every nuance of their business to be able to say, you need to differentiate yourself in some meaningful way, and &quot;we give better&quot; service&quot; or &quot;we care&quot; is not a key differentiator ... everyone says that!

Kungfu Veterinary Clinic ... exactly. Another eg. from an acquintance of mine. He had a coffin shop, and to maximize all the spare time he had sitting in the coffin shop opened a rock band promotional company. So his phone system would say &quot;press 1 for the coffin shop, 2 for Black Sabbath tickets.&quot; Can you imagine?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Carrie Hill &#8211; I couldn&#039;t agree more. We (yes we in the search industry) need to develop tools to help us identify where business models and business processes are impediments. I agree completely that research and testing is crucial. Now, you&#039;ve got me thinking!!!! Thanks Carrie!</p>
<p>@ MiriamEllis &#8211; agreed Miriam, though what if we could help them identify problems, and that would help. Often clients are not really strong business people &#8230; they&#039;re masters at their craft, but ocassionaly have little business sense. A little insight from a business savy third party can go a long way. We don&#039;t have to understand every nuance of their business to be able to say, you need to differentiate yourself in some meaningful way, and &#034;we give better&#034; service&#034; or &#034;we care&#034; is not a key differentiator &#8230; everyone says that!</p>
<p>Kungfu Veterinary Clinic &#8230; exactly. Another eg. from an acquintance of mine. He had a coffin shop, and to maximize all the spare time he had sitting in the coffin shop opened a rock band promotional company. So his phone system would say &#034;press 1 for the coffin shop, 2 for Black Sabbath tickets.&#034; Can you imagine?</p>
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		<title>By: Dudibob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dudibob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jeff - Friend recommendation does like the best way to track something like that, but then again, doesn&#039;t linking to somewhere work the same way?  If you believe a site has value (information, good product, etc) then you&#039;d link to it, pretty much the same as a friend recommendation but in the public face.

Also if we were to use a friend recommendation system, such as a widget that emails a friend the page your looking at, how would Google track this? would we have to install Google tracking code onto our site? will Google start monitoring every email (similar to what could be happening in the UK)?

Not trying to pick holes, I&#039;m intrigued to see how Google could pull something like this off without tapping directly into our heads :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jeff &#8211; Friend recommendation does like the best way to track something like that, but then again, doesn&#039;t linking to somewhere work the same way?  If you believe a site has value (information, good product, etc) then you&#039;d link to it, pretty much the same as a friend recommendation but in the public face.</p>
<p>Also if we were to use a friend recommendation system, such as a widget that emails a friend the page your looking at, how would Google track this? would we have to install Google tracking code onto our site? will Google start monitoring every email (similar to what could be happening in the UK)?</p>
<p>Not trying to pick holes, I&#039;m intrigued to see how Google could pull something like this off without tapping directly into our heads <img src='http://www.searchenginepeople.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: MiriamEllis</title>
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		<dc:creator>MiriamEllis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 05:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is such an important subject, Jeff, and I&#039;m not sure I&#039;ve seen it written about before. I think it can be difficult to make judgments about the effectiveness of someone else&#039;s business plan because, after all, you are an SEO, a designer, a PPC guy or whatever. You&#039;re not in the coin collecting industry. 

You try to learn what you can from what you see going on on the web, but in the end, small business owners should see a small business advisor when forming their plan, as well as doing tons of their own research. No SEO can take on this job that the business owner needs to have done themselves, long before they start hiring folks like us. 

Great article.

And, for the weird signs pile:

Kung Fu Veterinary Clinic

I swear, I actually saw this once.
Miriam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is such an important subject, Jeff, and I&#039;m not sure I&#039;ve seen it written about before. I think it can be difficult to make judgments about the effectiveness of someone else&#039;s business plan because, after all, you are an SEO, a designer, a PPC guy or whatever. You&#039;re not in the coin collecting industry. </p>
<p>You try to learn what you can from what you see going on on the web, but in the end, small business owners should see a small business advisor when forming their plan, as well as doing tons of their own research. No SEO can take on this job that the business owner needs to have done themselves, long before they start hiring folks like us. </p>
<p>Great article.</p>
<p>And, for the weird signs pile:</p>
<p>Kung Fu Veterinary Clinic</p>
<p>I swear, I actually saw this once.<br />
Miriam</p>
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		<title>By: Carrie Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carrie Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a prime example of this at Pubcon last week.  

A real estate lisitngs website had a poor structure &amp; business model - they asked for site reviews at least twice - and both times were told, by entirely different people, that their goal was unattainable due to some weird domain rules &amp; issues.  

One of the biggest obstacles I see in writing about small business - and in talking to small business owners is the lack of research and testing that should be done to determine the viability of their &quot;idea.&quot;  

PPC ads pointing at very small &amp; simple website is a great way to see if your idea is going to make money - before you sink a fortune into developing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a prime example of this at Pubcon last week.  </p>
<p>A real estate lisitngs website had a poor structure &amp; business model &#8211; they asked for site reviews at least twice &#8211; and both times were told, by entirely different people, that their goal was unattainable due to some weird domain rules &amp; issues.  </p>
<p>One of the biggest obstacles I see in writing about small business &#8211; and in talking to small business owners is the lack of research and testing that should be done to determine the viability of their &#034;idea.&#034;  </p>
<p>PPC ads pointing at very small &amp; simple website is a great way to see if your idea is going to make money &#8211; before you sink a fortune into developing it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Quipp</title>
		<link>http://www.searchenginepeople.com/blog/good-seo-cannot-compensate-for-faulty-business-models.html#comment-5438</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Quipp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Mike - I liked that picture too ... really drives home the point.

@ Submit Articles - soooooo true. Search will only highlight the issues.

@ Paisley - PRECISELY! First search friendliness, then user friendliness, now business model optimization.

@ Dudibob - I&#039;m intrigued by your &#039;automated system&#039; statement. Can you elaborate? Also, while you&#039;re correct that not every site displays prices, once social search is integrated, user behaviour tracking will likely take more of a backseat ... friend recommendations will comprise the largest portion of the algorithms. Make sense?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Mike &#8211; I liked that picture too &#8230; really drives home the point.</p>
<p>@ Submit Articles &#8211; soooooo true. Search will only highlight the issues.</p>
<p>@ Paisley &#8211; PRECISELY! First search friendliness, then user friendliness, now business model optimization.</p>
<p>@ Dudibob &#8211; I&#039;m intrigued by your &#039;automated system&#039; statement. Can you elaborate? Also, while you&#039;re correct that not every site displays prices, once social search is integrated, user behaviour tracking will likely take more of a backseat &#8230; friend recommendations will comprise the largest portion of the algorithms. Make sense?</p>
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		<title>By: Dudibob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dudibob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just curious, how would an automated system declare whether a business was successful or not? Not every website aims to make money from users, not every website displays prices on their websites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just curious, how would an automated system declare whether a business was successful or not? Not every website aims to make money from users, not every website displays prices on their websites.</p>
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