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		By: blackhatter		</title>
		<link>https://www.searchenginepeople.com/blog/blackhat-seo-ethics.html/comment-page-3#comment-6415</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blackhatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 17:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Black and grey hat is the way to go..unless you have a huge budget for white hat.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Black and grey hat is the way to go..unless you have a huge budget for white hat.</p>
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		By: Yanuar		</title>
		<link>https://www.searchenginepeople.com/blog/blackhat-seo-ethics.html/comment-page-3#comment-2916</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yanuar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gosh, I just know about what is the black hat ethics, thanks for bringing it up here. And like any other said, people should stop doing that as it may causing your site to get deletion result]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh, I just know about what is the black hat ethics, thanks for bringing it up here. And like any other said, people should stop doing that as it may causing your site to get deletion result</p>
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		By: Del Mar Picks		</title>
		<link>https://www.searchenginepeople.com/blog/blackhat-seo-ethics.html/comment-page-3#comment-2750</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Del Mar Picks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It seems that nowadays any pure white-hat strategy will not get you anywhere...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that nowadays any pure white-hat strategy will not get you anywhere&#8230;</p>
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		By: Rhys		</title>
		<link>https://www.searchenginepeople.com/blog/blackhat-seo-ethics.html/comment-page-3#comment-2417</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rhys]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 12:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The scary bit for me is the &quot;Big Brother&quot; aspect of Google - I mean they have got to the place of power and influence that they make their own rules with (apparently) little regard for the rest of the world, and I find it quite unnerving living in a WWWorld where the goal posts keep galloping around.

It is naive of G to expect that webmasters will conform to their expectation of putting up only &quot;content rich&quot; sites, when most real sites HAVE to justify their existence commercially of fall off the web.

Imagine a large daily paper that &#039;required&#039; its advertisers to put up only socially helpful ads - how long would that last, if it didn&#039;t have a virtual monopoly?????]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The scary bit for me is the &#8220;Big Brother&#8221; aspect of Google &#8211; I mean they have got to the place of power and influence that they make their own rules with (apparently) little regard for the rest of the world, and I find it quite unnerving living in a WWWorld where the goal posts keep galloping around.</p>
<p>It is naive of G to expect that webmasters will conform to their expectation of putting up only &#8220;content rich&#8221; sites, when most real sites HAVE to justify their existence commercially of fall off the web.</p>
<p>Imagine a large daily paper that &#8216;required&#8217; its advertisers to put up only socially helpful ads &#8211; how long would that last, if it didn&#8217;t have a virtual monopoly?????</p>
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		By: Andos		</title>
		<link>https://www.searchenginepeople.com/blog/blackhat-seo-ethics.html/comment-page-3#comment-2299</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 19:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Black hat make everybody hate you, but when use White hat, its only can get a few visitors. Maybe I must learn gray hat ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Black hat make everybody hate you, but when use White hat, its only can get a few visitors. Maybe I must learn gray hat 😉</p>
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		By: Foxy		</title>
		<link>https://www.searchenginepeople.com/blog/blackhat-seo-ethics.html/comment-page-3#comment-2211</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Foxy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 20:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I totally agree, i read a similar thing over at www.whatsyourview.net who outlined the same arguement]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree, i read a similar thing over at <a href="http://www.whatsyourview.net" rel="ugc nofollow external noopener noreferrer" data-wpel-link="external" target="_blank" class="ext-link">http://www.whatsyourview.net</a> who outlined the same arguement</p>
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		By: BriskShare Link Directory		</title>
		<link>https://www.searchenginepeople.com/blog/blackhat-seo-ethics.html/comment-page-3#comment-2202</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BriskShare Link Directory]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 03:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[google owns the web its their rules from now on]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>google owns the web its their rules from now on</p>
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		By: LittleShady		</title>
		<link>https://www.searchenginepeople.com/blog/blackhat-seo-ethics.html/comment-page-3#comment-2157</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LittleShady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Doug Heil: It is interesting that you continue to throw around the young phrase, like you are so much older and wiser, but you don&#039;t even remember what it was like before search engines. Why don&#039;t you try addressing the issues instead of relying on Ad Hominem?

@shady: I enjoyed your post.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Doug Heil: It is interesting that you continue to throw around the young phrase, like you are so much older and wiser, but you don&#8217;t even remember what it was like before search engines. Why don&#8217;t you try addressing the issues instead of relying on Ad Hominem?</p>
<p>@shady: I enjoyed your post.</p>
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		By: Curtis Armstrong		</title>
		<link>https://www.searchenginepeople.com/blog/blackhat-seo-ethics.html/comment-page-3#comment-2139</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Curtis Armstrong]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t really side with anyone here as I can see the perspectives of both.

The argument that a blackhat arguably provides a better user experience because they have commercial incentive only applies to those searchers that are looking for a commercial transaction.  For those searchers that are looking for answers, commercial sites (or at least blackhat ones) usually require some sort of conversion to provide those answers.

However, the idea that as webmasters or SEO people should just agree to do whatever Google asks of us so we can all work together to make the web a better place is just naive.  There&#039;s no partnership here.  Google&#039;s (and any search engine&#039;s) bread an butter is user experience but they&#039;re not sharing any of the money they make as a result with you.  When&#039;s the last time you flew with  Larry and Sergey on the Google jet?

My personal take is that Google is just another source of traffic to my sites.  Yes it&#039;s a big source but still, just a source.  I will do whatever I have to do  to get high rankings.  I&#039;m not wearing any hats, I&#039;m just trying to run my business to the best of my ability and not leave my fate in the hands of others.

One last thing...  Doug, you keep using the &quot;you&#039;re young and inexperienced&quot; card.  Let&#039;s look at it from another angle.  Perhaps you&#039;re just old and out of touch with the way things are today.

*Following up with the obligatory &quot;I&#039;ve been doing this for over 10 years now and am in my late 30&#039;s.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really side with anyone here as I can see the perspectives of both.</p>
<p>The argument that a blackhat arguably provides a better user experience because they have commercial incentive only applies to those searchers that are looking for a commercial transaction.  For those searchers that are looking for answers, commercial sites (or at least blackhat ones) usually require some sort of conversion to provide those answers.</p>
<p>However, the idea that as webmasters or SEO people should just agree to do whatever Google asks of us so we can all work together to make the web a better place is just naive.  There&#8217;s no partnership here.  Google&#8217;s (and any search engine&#8217;s) bread an butter is user experience but they&#8217;re not sharing any of the money they make as a result with you.  When&#8217;s the last time you flew with  Larry and Sergey on the Google jet?</p>
<p>My personal take is that Google is just another source of traffic to my sites.  Yes it&#8217;s a big source but still, just a source.  I will do whatever I have to do  to get high rankings.  I&#8217;m not wearing any hats, I&#8217;m just trying to run my business to the best of my ability and not leave my fate in the hands of others.</p>
<p>One last thing&#8230;  Doug, you keep using the &#8220;you&#8217;re young and inexperienced&#8221; card.  Let&#8217;s look at it from another angle.  Perhaps you&#8217;re just old and out of touch with the way things are today.</p>
<p>*Following up with the obligatory &#8220;I&#8217;ve been doing this for over 10 years now and am in my late 30&#8217;s.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Shuyler		</title>
		<link>https://www.searchenginepeople.com/blog/blackhat-seo-ethics.html/comment-page-3#comment-2137</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shuyler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 23:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The fact that google is so obscure with its requirements gives the most credence to your argument.  We all make choices regarding how we choose to build and operate our sites, and your point that it is a business decision, not an ethical one, makes a great deal of sense.  Of course, go back 50 years and tell someone that littering is &quot;wrong&quot; and you&#039;d look like an idiot.  Maybe we should all be prepared for the way we are judged to be constantly changing over time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that google is so obscure with its requirements gives the most credence to your argument.  We all make choices regarding how we choose to build and operate our sites, and your point that it is a business decision, not an ethical one, makes a great deal of sense.  Of course, go back 50 years and tell someone that littering is &#8220;wrong&#8221; and you&#8217;d look like an idiot.  Maybe we should all be prepared for the way we are judged to be constantly changing over time.</p>
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