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		By: Doc		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Mark

You&#039;re right, there are a lot of scammers out there who make guarantees about their &quot;SEO&quot; services that no one can make - like a #1 ranking on Google, for example. Or they make claims that suggest these kinds of results, but these claims are worded in such a way that they can ineffectively be fulfilled and as far as the legal jargin in the contract is concerned, they&#039;ve done their job.

But there are also a lot of SEO&#039;s that know the industry inside and out, and even being someone who has earned the right to fir off their mouths, won&#039;t do so out of respect. One of the efforts of my Internet marketing firm is educating potential clients on what to look for in a firm they hire, and how certain results cannot be guaranteed, only the services that are provided.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mark</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, there are a lot of scammers out there who make guarantees about their &#8220;SEO&#8221; services that no one can make &#8211; like a #1 ranking on Google, for example. Or they make claims that suggest these kinds of results, but these claims are worded in such a way that they can ineffectively be fulfilled and as far as the legal jargin in the contract is concerned, they&#8217;ve done their job.</p>
<p>But there are also a lot of SEO&#8217;s that know the industry inside and out, and even being someone who has earned the right to fir off their mouths, won&#8217;t do so out of respect. One of the efforts of my Internet marketing firm is educating potential clients on what to look for in a firm they hire, and how certain results cannot be guaranteed, only the services that are provided.</p>
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		By: Jim		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 23:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[After seeing the post on PC Magazine&#039;s site, I posted my own breakdown of what&#039;s wrong with John&#039;s article here: http://www.contextsolutions.net/blog/2009/02/why-john-dvorak-is-dead-wrong-about-seo/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After seeing the post on PC Magazine&#8217;s site, I posted my own breakdown of what&#8217;s wrong with John&#8217;s article here: <a href="http://www.contextsolutions.net/blog/2009/02/why-john-dvorak-is-dead-wrong-about-seo/" rel="ugc nofollow external noopener noreferrer" data-wpel-link="external" target="_blank" class="ext-link">http://www.contextsolutions.net/blog/2009/02/why-john-dvorak-is-dead-wrong-about-seo/</a></p>
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		By: seo tips		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[seo tips]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 16:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ha ha.he doesnt know about a thing about seo and yet seems to be commenting about it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ha ha.he doesnt know about a thing about seo and yet seems to be commenting about it.</p>
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		By: Mark		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s funny how the SEO community goes like a pack of wolves after somebody who knocks the industry.

Fair enough, Google has algorithms and those who understand how they work can influence results - strange that this plain logic defies some people.

However, I would agree with a few points in his article that, a vast majority of SEOs are snake oil salesmen and have no clue what they are talking about and secondly, a lot of these types of SEO are polluting the web.

I&#039;d like to see a proper response (such as MikeTek make a good start) pointing out about 301&#039;ing old articles - sure he&#039;s going to lose traffic if he doesn&#039;t do that!

I&#039;ve emailed him with some ideas and offered him an a response from my blog if he wishes to do so.

Still though.. Makes my teeth grind :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny how the SEO community goes like a pack of wolves after somebody who knocks the industry.</p>
<p>Fair enough, Google has algorithms and those who understand how they work can influence results &#8211; strange that this plain logic defies some people.</p>
<p>However, I would agree with a few points in his article that, a vast majority of SEOs are snake oil salesmen and have no clue what they are talking about and secondly, a lot of these types of SEO are polluting the web.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see a proper response (such as MikeTek make a good start) pointing out about 301&#8217;ing old articles &#8211; sure he&#8217;s going to lose traffic if he doesn&#8217;t do that!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve emailed him with some ideas and offered him an a response from my blog if he wishes to do so.</p>
<p>Still though.. Makes my teeth grind 🙂</p>
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		By: Online Internet Faxing		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Online Internet Faxing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[LOL what a joke no only am I more likely to click on something with a descriptive title instead of a ?postid=53, the search engines so love it.  Next he&#039;ll tell me the keyword in my URL have no benefit :P]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL what a joke no only am I more likely to click on something with a descriptive title instead of a ?postid=53, the search engines so love it.  Next he&#8217;ll tell me the keyword in my URL have no benefit 😛</p>
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		By: Bonh		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bonh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[He seems to just be another fed up consumer who might have somehow got misguided by some would-be SEO.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He seems to just be another fed up consumer who might have somehow got misguided by some would-be SEO.</p>
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		By: Kaitlyn		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kaitlyn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 21:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I like how his concluding paragraph completely retracts the first ten pages of ranting: &quot;Making your Web site search-engine-friendly is one thing, in other words. But using stupid human tricks such as the long URL and tags to get more attention is folly...&quot;  So is he admitting there are in fact some legitimate SEO strategies?  If so, why dismiss the whole industry?

Hmm, maybe try redirecting your pages before changing all their URLs...there&#039;s an example of how a real SEO could have demonstrably helped you, Dvorak.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like how his concluding paragraph completely retracts the first ten pages of ranting: &#8220;Making your Web site search-engine-friendly is one thing, in other words. But using stupid human tricks such as the long URL and tags to get more attention is folly&#8230;&#8221;  So is he admitting there are in fact some legitimate SEO strategies?  If so, why dismiss the whole industry?</p>
<p>Hmm, maybe try redirecting your pages before changing all their URLs&#8230;there&#8217;s an example of how a real SEO could have demonstrably helped you, Dvorak.</p>
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		By: clickfire		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[clickfire]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s funny. Change your entire URL structure based on an IM and then complain about the industry.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s funny. Change your entire URL structure based on an IM and then complain about the industry.</p>
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		By: Doc		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 15:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Large male parts or not, ignorance is not something for which I offer props - nor is common sense for that matter, since it should just be...ya know...common. I&#039;ll throw him props when he learns to use his male parts to back up a legitimate claims. If he thought that perma-links on his blog would get him targeted traffic, then he IS an idiot. As most of us know, actual words in a URL help when coupled with a number of effective SEO strategies, but alone, yes, a long URL is bogus, no matter what it contains.

I almost pissed my pants when he mentioned &quot;typing in the URL&quot;, as if &quot;http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=3100 &quot; is any easier to remember. Not to mention the fact that SEO aims to imrpove your ranking in results, not help people remember the exact URL for your latest blog post. Perhaps the reason his readers dropped is because he was weighing his creative efforts in on slandering SEOs instead of writing decent content for his blog.

I&#039;m not even going to go into his bit about tags, but considering his idea of SEO, based on this article, is long URL&#039;s and tags, he seriously needs to do more research before he fires off his mouth, or his &quot;male parts&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Large male parts or not, ignorance is not something for which I offer props &#8211; nor is common sense for that matter, since it should just be&#8230;ya know&#8230;common. I&#8217;ll throw him props when he learns to use his male parts to back up a legitimate claims. If he thought that perma-links on his blog would get him targeted traffic, then he IS an idiot. As most of us know, actual words in a URL help when coupled with a number of effective SEO strategies, but alone, yes, a long URL is bogus, no matter what it contains.</p>
<p>I almost pissed my pants when he mentioned &#8220;typing in the URL&#8221;, as if &#8220;http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=3100 &#8221; is any easier to remember. Not to mention the fact that SEO aims to imrpove your ranking in results, not help people remember the exact URL for your latest blog post. Perhaps the reason his readers dropped is because he was weighing his creative efforts in on slandering SEOs instead of writing decent content for his blog.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not even going to go into his bit about tags, but considering his idea of SEO, based on this article, is long URL&#8217;s and tags, he seriously needs to do more research before he fires off his mouth, or his &#8220;male parts&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Colleen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Colleen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 04:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Frankly, I can understand his point.  Given the number of snake oil seo spam emails we get on a weekly basis, I can see why Dvorak would down the seo industry.  Kinda like car salesmen.  There are a ton of good ones, but only the bad ones make press.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly, I can understand his point.  Given the number of snake oil seo spam emails we get on a weekly basis, I can see why Dvorak would down the seo industry.  Kinda like car salesmen.  There are a ton of good ones, but only the bad ones make press.</p>
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